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You are absolutely right. School uniforms can be inexpensive. But it would be the problem of the additional clothing still. Many will still need added clothing for after school. Many of them will refuse to wear a uniform outside of school if they don't have to. Many people I know, including myself when asked, would not want to where that uniform after school. Found on www.classroomuniforms.com, the average price for a uniform that will last one or two days, is between $100-$150. That added on to what they will have to spend for additional outfits would break a family of lower income, even if they buy used uniforms. You also argue that they wouldn't need any winter clothing. That is not admit-able, as many of the students I know actually enjoy going out in the winter, and will still need clothes for this. Plus, think of how many people we know that are always cold. These uniforms will either not be warm enough for them, or they will have to buy heavier tops that are warmer as a school uniform. Plus, for the people that are generally hot and prefer cooler clothing in the summer time. Then, they have to swap out the pants for shorts, furthering the cost.So the cost only rises, and they will still need seasonal clothing.

And as for gangs, you are more than accurate that we don't have that problem here and that it is a larger problem in larger cities. According to http://www.ojjdp.gov/ there are far more pushing kids to gangs. One being the excitement of it. How does a uniform stop anyone from wanting excitement? It is ridiculous to say that the uniform will stop them from joining up. Even more so, many do it for protection from other gangs (which still won't be stopped by school uniforms), pushes from the neighborhood they were born in (which you can't at all say that if they where a uniform, it will fight the push put on them by their own neighborhood), and that they need to make money because they are in a lower income area (where the biggest gang problems are). This goes right back to the previous issue, money. If you force them to buy a uniform, even the used one, you could very easily be pushing a kid towards a gang. School uniforms won't stop an issue at home, that is simply ridiculous.

And it wouldn't stop bullying at all. There are many more things that people are bullied for than their clothes and looks. People are bullied for their attitude, for their hair, for things they have done, for people they are friends with or even stood up for. Bullying is an unstoppable problem, and a uniform won't even begin to dent at the issue. Plus, then you open up bullying from other schools toward the one wearing the uniform. So the uniform won't really help the bullying issue as it can be for a lot more than a persons clothing.

As for stopping or slowing teen pregnancy and sexual actions, you still haven't argued my last point. Girls and guys will still date, and go out together after school. You CAN"T tell a student what to where outside of school. A uniform can easily hide a person's body to, you are absolutely right. But it is the same as any other trend, like yoga pants for example. They weren't made to make a girl look "hot", but someone found a way to take it and modify it from it's intended purpose and turn it into a good look. There would still be plenty of girls who may buy a uniform that would be a little more shape fitting because they like to dress that way. It doesn't matter what anyone does, when the media pushes this many sexual images at teens like they do these days, you can try all you want, but you can't stop them from that kind of behavior when it's pushed at them daily.

And finally, back to the shooter issue. One argument against many? What about Columbine, the most infamous school shooting of all time? It was two students. In many other cases ( the majority of them) it was students shooting other students and teachers. And your right on the hair, face, skin, and body type. But, according to your previous argument on decreasing harassment, you said that it can make a body type disappear, so that one is already out. Hair can't always be enough to tell one fleeing head from another. And the face would be hard to see with multiple kids running. The uniform, though wouldn't make it impossible, would help to camouflage them into the crowd, the same as many animals do to avoid danger.

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To be clarify Sunny, you are completely right. I am arguing with myself.

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And as for you Shae, you are absolutely correct, but, generally, when an officer is looking at you while driving, his eyes will go to the speed camera. If your speed doesn't fall above the limit, the officer won't pay any mind to you. I found on http://www.theatlanticcities.com/ that many officers will be looking specifically for a few things, and a cell phone is rarely one of them. As easy as it would be to take them down for the cell phone, they most likely won't even notice because they're focused on something else. When they look for a specific thing to make the arrest, it is rare that they will see any other problem without opening their eyes to all of the possibilities.

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But, wouldn't it be good to set example from experience? There is no better way to learn than from mistake. A large fine or possibly something worse would easily change someones mind. I found on http://www.psychologicalscience.org/ that fear tactics are quite effective. They have more of a positive effect in stopping someone from actually doing something. Plus to admit, teens are commonly known for rebellion. Would it really be a good idea to trust them to do as their parents say?

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School uniforms would have some benefits, I'm sure of that. But, it wouldn't save any of the families any money. According to http://www.angelfire.com/, school uniforms can cost up to one weeks worth of regular clothing. Not to mention that you still need the regular clothes for after school, the weekends, and the summer. They only add on to the budget. And as for stopping gang violence, how often are the attacks in school? Generally, gang violence is committed on the streets, and the schools are left free. Violence in school is generally fighting, which they will do, regardless of "colors."

And stopping teenage pregnancy? Again, those acts are being done out of school. You can control what a student wears in school, but you can't force them to wear them outside. And, the old saying, boys will be boys, is more than true. Young men will still look.

And finally, to find intruders within the school. Your main thought on that, a very good one, wouldn't usually work. Most of the shooters in these schools are students in the school themselves. It would only add to the chaos as it would make it harder to say who is doing the shooting. It wouldn't help to identify one at all, nor help to hold them outside, because the shooter now looks exactly like every other kid in the school.

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Homework is definitely an important part of school work. As annoying and stressful as it is on students, even those with a job, it is necessary because it helps with responsibility, learning, and it even helps the teachers. I found on http://www.cesdp.nmhu.edu/ that it helps with responsibility by teaching time management, and to have your work done on time. Homework doesn't end in school, its a part of life, making sure that we can have our work done on time. It also helps with learning for the student, helping them to memorize what they have been taught. This is the most important part because they can have practice to actually memorize what they need to know. And finally, it can help the teachers greatly. It can show, quite well what students need help. Many students that need help don't want to ask the teacher because they feel embarrassed. So, provided the teacher is taking that into account, homework is the gift from the schools, even if it's annoying and we don't see it now.

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Paying the students for grades wouldn't necessarily have the best results, though it would still have more. If they pay for the daily work, then the results have shown to be much more. A study was done by Harvard University (found on www.npr.org) that found that paying them for their daily work, the results were increased. It's biggest impact was on second grade reading, where it encouraged kids to read more often, increasing in their own comprehension. Even more so, it increases productivity, and education. If you pay for the daily work, then they will be more inclined to do it, and that's where the learning really is. If you can convince the students to do the daily work, all of the time, it would reflect on the tests, and increase the over all GPA of these students.

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I would definitely be against school uniforms. According to www.greatschools.org, there are many pros and many cons. A few of the pros would be such as discouraging gang activity on campus, helping to identify intruders, and increase a sense of belonging in the school. As for the gangs, even though it isn't a large problem around here, it still can't stop the gangs from getting into a school just because they can't wear their "colors" in school. It will just result in them wearing the "colors" after school, and still being involved. As for determining an intruder, the hype for society lately has been shootings. That would only make those scenarios worse, as then, everyone will look the same as the shooter. And as for the sense of belonging in the school, every school has it's groups. There's no way to stop that, and their will always be people that are excluded from the group. It is impossible to stop that with a uniform.

Uniforms also infringe on students rights of expression. There has to be guidelines to what we can wear, but of course, we are allowed to have our own style. I myself may prefer to dress widely different from anyone else in the school. Who can have that right to take away my thoughts of fashion? Nobody can, nor will anybody ever do so. School uniforms are not the way, perhaps a better education system where we can overpower the problems without having to change the way we dress would be the better solution.

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More education would definitely be the way to go for this matter. As many laws as can be made, every law can be broken and it isn't difficult at all to hold a phone low enough that an officer won't see it. According to www.fcc.gov, most teens learn from experience. If they see their parents doing it, or are never told by a person with a large impact in their life that it it dangerous and wrong, the studies do show they'll be more likely to do so. With simple education and good example being set, we would all be better off.

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I would definitely say that our school policies don’t do enough. The studys done by edsource.org show that 28% of seventh grade students still get bullied, as well as 22% of ninth graders. With these results, it alone shows that the policy alone doesn’t get the job done. Alongside that, many of the schools didn’t even record any of the success rate of the programs. How can we determine the success of these programs if we can’t track their successfulness? Perhaps what we need to do, would be teach the teachers to better notice signs of bullying, and to encourage children to be open about being bullied. Perhaps with that, we would be closer to obtaining the unobtainable goal of ending bullying.

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