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Debate Score:103
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Total Votes:114
Ended:04/18/14
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Banned Books

Book banning is a form of censorship. While many oppressive governments censor what their citizens can read, the U.S. also has a history of banning, or attempting to ban, books that it considered obscene or a threat to national security. Most challenges to books today occur at the local community or school district level. The most common reasons for challenging a book are offensive language, sexual content, and inappropriate subjects for minors. Those in favor of banning books for minors say that school administrators and librarians have the responsibility of protecting their students from inappropriate and controversial materials. Those opposed to book banning in schools and public libraries argue that it is up to individual students and their parents to determine what is appropriate reading material.

Students need protection

Side Score: 6
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Students need right to choose

Side Score: 97
Winning Side!
1 point

Banning books is a common practice around the world. Some books, articles, and magazines should be banned from public libraries and school libraries. I wouldn't want my 7 year old sister walking into the library and picking up a Playboy magazine. I'm not sure that all explicit books should be banned, but they should have an age limit or grade limit. For instance, "The Adventure of Huckleberry Finn", would not be a good book to read to a second grader. First off, there is an underlying message in the book that little kids probably wouldn't understand. Secondly, the book uses vulgar language and has cruel details and situations. Therefore, books should not be banned but they should have an age limit. In schools, books should have a code on them where a child under a certain grade can not check them out. In public libraries, children should be issued a library card and number. The child's information will be on the card so the librarian can prevent any under aged children from checking out certain books. The only problem that would occur is how we would categorize the books for different ages. Librarians would have to go through and see how much sexual content, vulgar language, and cruel situations occur in these books. With this type of categorization, libraries will be more like movie theaters.

Information came from: http://www.neatorama.com/2011/09/29/12-books-that-have-ironically-been-banned-in-the-u-s/#!EA18m

Side: Students need protection
ARohlk(4) Disputed
1 point

What you have said here is proposing categorization of these books not the banning of these books which you are apparently on the side of. And a magazine isn't a book, and I don't believe for a second that a school library, which is what is in question here, would have such a magazine as Playboy.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

We can all agree that some books out there have absolutely no purpose of being on the shelves. There are books out there that support racism, discrimination, sexual abuse, violence, and inappropriate language. Students are very influential, especially at a young age. Students reading books whom support these topics may be getting a negative influence. Some books out there should require parental permission before reading, while other books out there should just plain be banned. For more information, check out the site below.

Supporting Evidence: Banned Books (libguides.butler.edu)
Side: Students need protection
Jonboy(7) Disputed
1 point

It would be no different than the negativity they get from other classmates or students. Whether the student is bullying, or is getting bullied, it leaves them with negative experiences that would be worse than a book. but we can't band the bully's, can we? No, because it would be wrong DENYING a student to learn, experience and grow. Books can also be positive too, and still have vulgarity, or something inappropriate. I understand younger kids, such as elementary students, shouldn't be reading books involving sexual content, or inhuman violence. that's just common sense. But we as people have the freedom to choose. I don't think that a school would have pornography or such in a library. That in itself, is ridiculous. But they should have the right to read books, such as "Huckleberry Finn," if they choose to. They'll eventually learn about it in the future.

Side: Students need right to choose
0 points

Because if one of our children of the youth gets a hold of one of these books then there minds will be clouded with the sexual or ugly content. The children are the life of the earth to come and if they are exposed to this kind of writing at such young ages, then they will question the dark future that they might have. Then we have the racial content that may offended many of our good, honest people. A book shouldn't offended anyone who reads it.

Supporting Evidence: Reasons for Banning (libguides.butler.edu)
Side: Students need protection
SRyen(10) Disputed
1 point

Well I think they won't have sexual content in any elementary schools I think it would be more high schools getting them then younger so than you know what it is by having the sex ed. But people writing the books don't mean to offend anyone either tho.

Side: Students need right to choose
JudgeZach(8) Disputed
0 points

Some schools don't have a choice about the books they get because of there money situation. Not all schools have the money like we do.

Side: Students need protection
9 points

I think that students deserve the right to choose. I can understand some books really do need to be banned, and for certain age groups they may need to be banned, but teenagers should be able to determine for themselves if the book is appropriate enough. Some of the books on some articles I read, were some of the books that you wouldn't think to even ban. Like "To Kill A Mockingbird" and "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn". I don't think they need to be banned because they give us a view on how it was really like to live in those time periods instead of just learning the history of those time periods in a history class. Books give us opportunities to learn more and more. Little kids don't have as well as a judgement on whether the book is appropriate or not, but that should be up to parents to censor their reading. Banning books is sort of a good thing for some books that really do need it, but students need the right to choose.

Supporting Evidence: Article (www.bannedbooksweek.org)
Side: Students need right to choose
7 points

I think students should be able to choose the books we want to read. Many say witchcraft and speaking of the devil are bad for kids to know but if we are of the age to be mature enough to handle this we should be able to choose. When we graduate high school we have the right to read these books if we want so why not just let us do it now. We will have to step out in the real world sooner or later.

Side: Students need right to choose
6 points

Banning books is very well against any view of education. Many books have been banned do to reasons of racism, language, and sexuality. Even the dictionary has been banned from schools in California do to it having vulgar language and sexuality. These are scenarios that kids face every day, and who are we to shelter them and bring them into that. Protection should start at home, we have no right to take away ideas from people. If we can't state what subjects can't be taught, where can we draw the line? Some books may be inappropriate, and that is perfectly okay. If the parents child doesn't want them reading it, they should discuss it, and solve the matter where it is a problem. The public schools job is to promote ideas and individualism to every child, enabling a sense of learning. How can we do this if we take some ideas away simply because they are deemed inappropriate? Many books that can hold a valuable learning point have been banned, such as The Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn, Grapes of Wrath, The Diary of Ann Frank, and even yes, the dictionary have been banned. These books all show the inside of problems, and shouldn't be banned when they actually help to enable a better belief on the subject.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/29/the-11-most-surprising-ban515381.html#s76400&title;=The_Dictionary

http://www.juliatomiak.com/2013/09/why-banning-books-is-a-bad-idea/

Side: Students need right to choose
6 points

Many students don't have much say in anything, but banning books are the least of kids worries. Students don't look at kids stories as a bad thing. Like the book "The Lorax." In the book the narrator chops down Truffula Trees in the imaginary forest, and it got banned because of the thought of anti-deforesting plot line. I don't think they kids would look at the book as anti-deforesting. I really think that kids should have a say in banning books because "The Lorax" could be someones favorite book and they don't even have a say.

Side: Students need right to choose
5 points

Students need the right to choose because some banned books are good books! According to American Library Association, a banned book is a book that has been removed from the shelf of a library/school. A challenged book is a book that should be removed, but hasn't been removed from the shelves of a library/school.

We do have our rights as citizens of the U.S. and I question who is banning/challenging these books? Most likely the parents. Not all of them though, most likely the ones that are overprotective and maybe sheltered as a kid. The reason they may want to keep such books away is because there are things that they don't want their children find out until they're old enough.

Manion, Amy S. "Banned Books." Home. Aurora University, 12 July 2013. Web. 17 Apr. 2014.

Side: Students need right to choose
4 points

I think we should be able to choose books. It's ridiculous that they can't learn the facts of life. Also I do think it's ok to ban the books that speak of witchcraft or anything that will corrupt their minds. To a point I think it should be allowed, but yet use your head. Stuff gives kids nightmares and makes them crazy. JUST BE SMART!!!!! Swear words and stuff is no big deal, but corrupt gross things is different story.

http://libguides.butler.edu/content.php?pid=272169&sid;=2247646

Side: Students need right to choose
4 points

First and foremost, I don't think books should be banned. Sure there are some wonderful and important facts and information in school textbooks, but students can't just go off of those. If there are only a certain type of books that are in the school libraries, students will have very narrow point of view and they will all be similar because everything they will have access to is the same.

There are people who like certain types of books, and refuse to even get involved with books that have no interest to them. I think that describes you as a person by what your interests are as far as reading in your free time. Face it, high school students can't stay sheltered forever, and chances are they are doing and saying the exact same thing that is portrayed in the banned books.

I believe students have the right to choose what they read and not what people higher up think they should read. Although, there definitely needs to be some boundaries. Books that are legitimately way too graphic (sexual and violence) need to be banned from school libraries. If there is swearing in a book, than that is okay, in my opinion. High school students swear ALL THE TIME, so reading it in a book isn't going to change their thinking one way or another.

Ultimately, students should get to choose what books to read.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I agree with you Haley about when you read a book it does describe you as a person by what you read. The swearing thing ya and I know some way younger kids that swear a lot too.

Side: Students need right to choose
HSpetman(33) Clarified
1 point

Ok - I am following your argument...until the end. So books should not be banned unless they are "legitimately way too graphic" - who should determine that? Is there a guideline that should be followed? Who sets the bar? What is "graphic" to one person, may not seem so to another...so, how do we determine what gets banned? Also, since the argument mentions banning books that are too graphic, should this argument be on the pro side rather than the con side?

Side: Students need protection

I agree libraries should ban books that are way to sexual and violent because some students do know how to properly act to books like that. Some people get offended by books that have sexual content in them. The swearing in books I understand and it is okay because high school student and middle school students swear all the time. I also hear younger kids swearing all the time. I believe that if the kid is mature enough to handle what they are reading then they can read it if they aren't mature enough to then they shouldn't be reading the book.

Side: Students need right to choose
3 points

I feel that students should have the right to choose what they want to read. If the book makes them feel bad quit reading the book its called common sense. Its their decision to either read it or not read the book.

http://www.firstamendmentschools.org/resources/lesson.aspx?id=13963

Side: Students need right to choose
3 points

I think the people that live in a "free country" deserve the right to choose what they want to read. After reading bits and pieces of an article on infoplease.com, I've realized how it is said in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, that the citizens have a freedom of speech. Obviously that right is being taken away from us if books are being banned.

"According to the ALA President Carol Brey-Casiano, "Not every book is right for every person, but providing a wide range of reading choices is vital for learning, exploration, and imagination. The abilities to read, speak, think, and express ourselves freely are core American values." I think that statement is SO true. It's disappointing to see all the books that we used to read as kids, or books that we just read last month, is now banned.

Supporting Evidence: infoplease.com (www.infoplease.com)
Side: Students need right to choose
2 points

I think that we should not banned books cause they have good education to learn about different kinds of books in our literature classes. "The government should not restrict books from being published or interfere into personal affairs as this is an infringement of the First Amendment." They government shouldn't banned books cause the people have the right to read what they want and know one should have the say what people read.

Supporting Evidence: Aganist Banning Books (www.teenink.com)
Side: Students need right to choose
2 points

I think students should be able to read any book they choose they know what they are reading and if you don't let them read it in school they will be reading it somewhere else or if they do get the book at home they might bring it to school. People donate books what if they book wasn't okay for people to read what would they do just say, oh I can't take this book because it's banned. Donating is donating and I don't think we should ban any books.

http://www.ala.org/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/top10

Side: Students need right to choose
2 points

I feel like the student should have the right to choose if they want to read the book or not. I have read many of these books when I was younger and they didn't affect me. The kid should know weather the book is appropriate or not. The article that I read mentioned about how they aren't appropriate or they don't believe in what the book is saying and I feel like if its not appropriate for you to read then you don't have to read it and if its against your beliefs then once again don't read it.

http://www.teenink.com/opinion/socialissuescivics/article/131038/Against-Banning-Books/

Side: Students need right to choose
2 points

I have read many of the banned books and can say they never affected me in a negative way. Many of these books are classics and its a shame if students couldn't read them. I feel like these books are important and shouldn't be banned because they are bad. http://www.oclc.org/

Side: Students need right to choose
2 points

I personally think that students need the right to choose because even if they do read a book with any situation that's their choice. You should know what you're going to read and if you don't like the book then maybe not read it. Students should always have a choice on what they want to read but for example if it's a book for a class you have to read it.

Side: Students need right to choose
2 points

I think that students should have the right to choose the books they want to read. If the student chooses a book that they think is wrong or too much for them, they know that they can return the book. They don't have to keep reading it. I understand that some books have more graphic words than others and some are inappropriate, but it's the students choice to read it or not. Other people shouldn't have a say in what people read. If the school thinks a book should be banned or that it's too inappropriate for some students, they should make the student have a parent sign a slip of paper before they can read it. In our society, there is TV shows, radio stations, and movies that are more inappropriate than the books. The books can give more detail about inappropriate stuff, but a movie or TV show shows the inappropriate stuff. Libraries and most schools are public places, so why should people be able to ban books from them. It's better for students to read, discuss, and think about the topics of racism or abuse or sexuality in the context of a book, instead of with their friends or other students because a book will give details but not too much details. The book "Thirteen Reasons Why" shouldn't be banned, even though it talks about a girl taking her life, it also shows people that anything you do to someone affects them in a way. It shows that you shouldn't judge people or make fun of them for no reason. I realize that some words or content are offensive to some people, but having no words at all in a book would be much worse. Books should not be banned, it's the student's choice on what book they want to read or not.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I believe people have the right to choose what books they read. Books shouldn't be banned, they are a part of American history. They should not take away our right to choose what we read.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I believe that students are mature enough that they are aware of the explicit content of the world, and that they should be mature on to keep it to themselves. I feel that we can only do so much to censor the world to our children, but we wont be able to keep our children immune to the volatile content in books and society forever. I feel we should censor books in the early stage of school, or at least until the children have full knowledge of the content.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I believe that the banning of certain books withing school libraries is absolutely ludicrous. Sure some books make use of vulgar language or talk about touchy subjects but that is no reason to ban students from reading these books. Touchy subjects need to be both written about and read by students. How else are these subjects to advance? How are they to progress and be resolved? People who want certain books banned are just trying to shield youth from potentially life changing topics. People who want books banned are the epitome of ignorance and I think that their opinions should be banned from human ears so they can feel the same way that the writers of these books would feel: like their freedom of speech has been compromised.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

Many of the books that are "Banned" we have read in school. Why ban books? People should be able to pick what books they want to read. If they are "old" enough to be able to understand and act like a grown up during the whole book then you should be able to read it. If people aren't old enough to be able to pick what books they want to read then how are people old enough to choose life decisions? The people that are about to graduate are making more of a life decision than having someone say, "You can't read this book because it has some bad things in it."

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think banning books is wrong what if we want to read it. If it is for racial stuff it has that it shouldn't be banned because it is just showing how us Americans acted back in the day. I think were old enough to handed sexual stuff.

Side: Students need right to choose
JudgeZach(8) Disputed
1 point

Not all people are old enough to read these books that have sexual content, but children can still get a hold of these books.

Side: Students need protection
Duff24(10) Disputed
2 points

I really don't think that children are really aware of what they are reading so I don't feel like that is really a huge problem

Side: Students need right to choose
ARohlk(4) Disputed
1 point

If these cant read these books they wont understand any of the book at all thus doing no harm to their young minds. Your point is invalid.

Side: Students need right to choose
SRyen(10) Disputed
1 point

Parents and teachers could keep books that are unrated for children. But if you know what it is and it interest you and you know what they are talking bout I don't really think theirs a problem.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

After reading this article about banning books, I have decided to give students the option to decide what they read. Instead of banning certain books, maybe just put an age advisory on it. A lot of the books that have been banned, I've personally read. I don't feel like they should be banned because they teach children that life isn't always flowers and butterflies. I wouldn't want a young kid reading something inappropriate, however, I wouldn't want a teenager denied the right to pick up the book "The Diary of Anne Frank". Every person should have the right to decide what they want to read.

Supporting Evidence: 2005 Banned Books (www.oclc.org)
Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

Most books that would have racism, profanity, or sex would be for older teenagers. These books will more than likely not talk about anything that we haven't seen before. Even so if someone has never experienced that they need to get exposed to it, because in the real world they will in some way or another.

Supporting Evidence: Schools and Censorship: Banned Books (www.pfaw.org)
Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think it should be up to the parents and kids what they read, not the public. Sure, you can ban books, but just like drugs people will find ways to smuggle them around. I've read my fair share of violent and racist books, but it hasn't affected me personally in any way.. If the kid is mature enough and can handle it, I say they should be able to read what they want and not have to be punished for it. Banning classic books like Huckleberry Finn and To Kill A Mocking Bird is ridiculous, they teach historical lessons of events that actually happened and students should be able to learn about it without having to worry if the books are banned or not.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I agree with you. It is unfair to students and people who want to read these types of books but they are being banned. It should be up to the readers and their parents.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I agree that children should have the right to read what they please. Either way if someone wants to read a book bad enough they will go out and find a book. There are books that I agree that shouldn't be available to students that contain too much sexual content, too much swearing, etc. But either way that child is going to be exposed to whatever was in that book. Like having Harry Potter banned in some Catholic schools because the pastors thought that it's their job to protect the weak and temptations. They deemed the sorcery-heavy story lines are inappropriate.

Supporting Evidence: Harry Potter (theweek.com)
Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I feel like people deserve that have the choice of reading. There are so many issues and arguments that books will make kids think and act in a way that isn't of the norm. Violence and negativity is a huge reason why some one minded parents feel that is corrupting the mind of their child. But how is that any different than letting their child watch those kind of shows on television. With books, you are not actually looking at the violence unfold like they would be while watching television. There is a huge difference from reading about the violence and watching it on the television. You don't really hear very often about a child pulling a stupid move or doing something violent because of a book. Usually they got it off a television show or a movie that they watched the night before. The ideas of violence normally do not come from a book that someone has read. Those ideas of violence comes from watching something and planting that idea in the viewers head. Not because of the book they read the night before. Books are not the cause of violence, the media already has the department covered.

Supporting Evidence: Banned Books (libguides.butler.edu)
Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think you are right students should be able to read what they want to read in their life time ,don't take that away from them. If you do us students might go behind your back and read the book. Many students will want to have the knowledge to feed their mind for the future. Students may want to rebel the banning of some books. Another fact many students may love reading when their bored. So let them read what ever books they want to. Also by reading books will give the brain an adventure. http://www.bannedbooksweek.org/

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think parents should be able to choose if they want their child to read something especially when they are in elementary school. But once you get into middle school and high school I think you should be able to choose what interests you and what you want to read. Some books may have bad language or some words the elder Americans may of used but that is part of the history, and I think if you are in middle school or high school you should be able to read it.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think we should be able to choose what books we want to read. There are limits, such as sexual content that is not needed in school, but books such as "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" and "To Kill a Mockingbird" should not be banned.

The First Amendment guarantees our right to free speech, which includes the right to read and write books that might be considered by some to be too violent, hateful, or offensive. It is our right to read what we want.

Supporting Evidence: Banned Books (www.infoplease.com)
Side: Students need right to choose
HSpetman(33) Clarified
1 point

I agree with you. However, I am wondering what the difference is between having the right to choose to read the books in the library, and having to read a book for class -- is there a distinction that should be made here?

Side: Students need protection

I think that students should have the right to choose what books they want to read and to chose what books are appropriate for their age group. I agree that some books should be banned but most students should know how to act when there's a bad word or sexual sentence or statement when reading something. If the students don't know how to act when they come across something like that in a book or magazine whatever they are reading then they probably shouldn't be reading it. There's so many books out there that are banned but to me they shouldn't be like "The adventure Of Huckleberry Finn" you wouldn't think to ban that book because it's letting us know what it was like back then and what it was like to be a slave and how much work they had to do all day but there are some books that honestly should be banned. Most students are mature enough to handle that kind of situation when they come across it when reading something they don't make a big deal about it.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think students should have the right to choose what they want to read. Especially if this student is in high school. As high school students we should be able to decide what we want to read and not be told we can't read it. We are old enough to decide if we can or can't handle what to read. If the teachers and/or adults don't like these books then don't read them. If we like them and we like to read them then whats it to you adults? If we are enjoying what we are reading and we're actually reading then whats the problem? Maybe you should set an age limit to ban the books. Like middle school and down. The high school students are able to decide on their own.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think students should get the right to choose what they read and not have to be limited to certain type of book. I get with banning some but that very few. Like a middle schooler reading 50 shades of grey I think is a little wrong and someone that young shouldn't be reading that type of books. But then you got some people thinking we should try banning books like Captain Underpants because it has "offensive language, unsuited for young age group and that it has violence". To me that's pushing it a little to far. When I was young i used to read them all the time. Really there is nothing wrong with Captain Underpants. In today's world you can't go far without reading a book with violence in it. I've seen people try banning the hunger game series because it shows a unsuited religious view point that teens shouldn't be reading. And that is anti-government or government anarkey. I highly disagree with what they say. Hunger Games series are great books that take us into adventure where we see maybe what we could become as a nation if the government does get to much power and that we always should have free power. People should get a choice of what they read because sometimes books can save our lives if were heading towards darkness with it taking us to a new world and on a new adventure we could have never imagined.

Supporting Evidence: Banned books (www.huffingtonpost.com)
Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think that people need rights to choose books they are interested in, no matter what age. Most elementary school kids wouldn't go looking for a book about sex or violence unless they were turned on to it by something they heard or have seen, in which case they have already been exposed and would hopefully ask questions about what they are hearing or seeing, and then it is the parents or teachers responsibility to help them understand for the better about what they found out. I don't mean they should tell them more about the information they read, I mean they should reassure them that things like that do happen but they don't really need to be concerned about it. Either way, they are going to learn about it from someone or something they just need to know right from wrong.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I believe that students should have the right to choose what books they read because everyone should have the right to read what they want and form their own opinions on the reading. If books are getting banned that the students like they are just not going to read at all. Banning books goes against the first amendment because the first amendment states that everyone has the freedom of speech. The author had the freedom to write the book the way that they wrote it. We should not have the right to get rid of the way that someone else thinks of things. In some books there is offensive language, but if you had no books at all it would hurt the students even more. I don't think that classic books like Huckleberry Finn, or To Kill a Mockingbird should ever be banned. They have been banned because of the language that is used in the books, but they teach the students about important life values. They also teach students about the world problems that where going on during that time. When I read both of these books, I found them very interesting, and I learned a lot about the way that people lived and acted in that time. Also I think that books shouldn't be banned because what you read in books is no worst than what you see on TV. If you are going to start banning books then you have to start regulating what students watch on TV. All together I think that banning books would hurt the students more than it would help them.

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I think that banning books is ridiculous. Why should students let alone full grown adults be told what they can and can't read. Its understandable if parents don't want their elementary student reading books with more mature content, but banning books from high school students? I grew up thinking I lived in a FREE country. We are suppose to have freedom of SPEECH, freedom of PRESS, freedom of RELIGION... but your going to try and tell me im not allowed to read a few certain books...? All because of what is written on little piece of paper the government or the school is going to say "Sorry bud, but you cant read this." In 1938 a book called Johnny Got His Gun was written. It was a book about a man (John) who goes to war (WW1) and on the last day of the war he is caught in an artillery explosion. When he "wakes up" he realizes he as lost arms, legs, sight, speech, and hearing. The government had this book banned because it let the public know the reality of war and how bad it is. The public has every right to know, has every right to read what they want. http://library.uttyler.edu/blog/create-blog-entry-36

Side: Students need right to choose
1 point

I believe that the students should have the right to choose what book they get to read. The reasonings for banning books are because of "violence, racism, offensive language, sexual explicit reasons." I do agree that high schoolers and middle schoolers should not be reading the same things. Violence happens in everyday lives. There has been more books and video games with violence occurring, but we can put a stop to this. To Kill A Mockingbird was banned from many schools, which in my opinion should not have happened. I loved that book, and it brought real life into books. If you do not expose children to real life situations they will never know how to handle them when they do see or hear them.

Supporting Evidence: Banned Books (www.yalsa.ala.org)
Side: Students need right to choose